Posted 6/12/2004 10:14 AM | | | Hi Chaps, my elation at getting a 1gb card lasted a few minutes.. I installed it Renamed it. then thought it best to reformat it which renamed it to "Memory Card" Now when I rename it, I can type the new name hit ok....and it reboots the phone Phone goes blank and restarts, press down and you get a sim not ready message, give it a few seconds and its all back to normal. I cant see the card through PC suite. any advice please? |
| Posted 6/12/2004 11:35 AM | | | Hi Wak, Don't worry your card just needs to be re-formatted by a PC (via a memory card reader; either USB, or PCMCIA). The Nokia 6230 can PLAY the contents of the 512mb and 1Gb cards fine, but it does not report back (things like capacity and extra space) correctly on those big cards. Because of that reason, we had never tried formatting the 1Gb from the phone itself. (If you had not formatted it would have just worked fine with a rename: our cards come pre-formatted correctly to FAT filesystem for mobile phone use). But, to help solve your problem, we have just repeated exactly what you did with our test 6230, and a 1Gb. And it also caused a reboot in our phone!. Actually, the 6230 is not capable of formatting this size of card correctly (i would include the 512mb in that too) Having just plugged it into a card reader and re-formatted via a PC, the card is back to full-health and is functioning again in the 6230. But it still reports back the wrong size of the card etc.. So, next step for you is access to a card reader on a PC (have you got one, or can you borrow one). We will be selling them on our site by Tuesday/Wednesday (from £12 for a 7-in-1 USB2 reader). If you still have not managed to re-format with a PC elsewhere by then, then let us know and you can order a reader from us and we will waive the shipping fee. Also, I will be placing more obvious warnings against formatting the big cards on the 6230 within our main guides. So you can rename a card from the Nokia 6230, and play all the content on it, and move files around. But DO NOT FORMAT >256MB Cards on it. Hope this helps.
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| Posted 6/12/2004 12:35 PM | | | Hi , sorry...I was out buying a usb card reader/writer..... its moved on now. formatted..on a pc. put it back in and renamed it from "NO NAME" to "Waks 1gbMMC" on the phone it appears as "Waks 1gbMMC" but via Nokia PC Suite it appears as NO NAME (via infrared) and the phone browser. files are copying ok. There is a file on it called Waks.MMC do you think a space in the name is confusing it? thanks for your help Wak |
| Posted 6/12/2004 12:58 PM | | | Honest answer, not sure. We will investigate that. In the mean-time i suggest you use your memory card reader connected to your PC to transfer your .MP3 (or any .aac made in Nokia Audio Manager) to your memory card, and then take it out the reader and put it back into your Nokia 6230. NB. Please remember to always Click the [Safely Remove Hardware] in the bottom-right of Windows Desktop and stop your card reader, before removing the MMC from the reader. We don't want you to have to re-format again..
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| Posted 6/12/2004 1:03 PM | | | Wak, Useful tip is to have a look into the www.dbpoweramp.com website and look into an alternative .aac file encoder there (is a few free aac codecs to choose from). Also, they have mp3 to aac converters; very handy if you have a big collection of pre CD-ripped Mp3's already. wonghong has been getting better results in using those. The Nokia Audio MAnager can be quite slow in it's CD-ripping. cheers
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| Posted 6/12/2004 2:01 PM | | | excuse my ignorance, what is the benefit of aac over mp3 i.e. why should I look into converters? if fact.... what is aac?  |
| Posted 6/12/2004 6:31 PM | | | If you have a large existing collection of MP3s then .aac may not be of much interest to you right now. But if not, and if you are going to use the Nokia 6230 as your primary mobile music listening device, then AAC will allow you to store more music albums into a given space, than the same quality of MP3s. This is because AAC is a newer standard of digital compression, developed by the same people as the original MP3 encoding. As it is newer, the algorithm is more efficient. It is the same standard to be found in the MP4 (the nrewest MPEG Video encoding standard). This is also used in the .3GP video format found in number of mobiles (from the Nokia 6230 / 6600 / n-gage / Siemens SX1 to the Sharp GX-30). At some point in the near future, it is likely that all digital music players will be compliant with the .AAC format. But right now, not all are, so for the greatest versatiliy between different music devices, MP3 is probably the better still. In terms of quality, objective blind studies with serious music buffs has proven that 64kbps encoded AAC is about a comparable quality (in terms of listening experience) to 96kbps encoded MP3. Quite simply, it means you should be able to fit about 1/4 to 1/3 more music onto your 1Gb MobyMemory MMC card with AAC files. The default encoding in the Nokia Audio Manager is to 64kbps AAC. As i said earlier, some of the utilities at dbpoweramp let you convert your existing MP3s into AAC format, or to rip from CD in a quicker turn-around than NAM can manage.
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| Posted 6/12/2004 11:27 PM | | | Cheers for the help..its working although it is still causing name recognition problems in PCsuite 6.1 I change it and it displays the new name on the phone but is still "NO NAME" through the phone browser. I'll leave it as NO NAME on the phone as well for the time being. it also creates a a file and folder on the MMC of the new name which cant be deleted. thanks again Wak |
| Posted 6/13/2004 1:48 AM | | | No problem Wak. As long as you can get your music onto your 6230, and in decent quantities then that is the important thing. I think the Nokia 6230 is the most amazing small phone out there right now, given that you can squeeze up to 30 hours of good-quailty encoded music onto it... Pretty awesome really ..
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| Posted 6/14/2004 11:52 PM | | | Hi Chaps, update for you ...you may already have this info but as typical, in the rush to use a new gadget in blind panic you dont bother reading a manual and mess it up and then scream help.....but I am now back to how the card arrived and able to rename it in the phone.... the solution was Format the card in a PC but DO NOT specify a label make sure it is blank. If you specify a label a pair of hidden files are created on the memory card that the Nokia will see and it wont let you rename it so format it with a blank name. Then you can rename it on the phone and PC suite will see it properly. 
p.s. is this phone flashable to a new firmware? assuming nokia may release a more accomodating firmware. |
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